With or without lacquer and why?

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25 feb 2008 10:57 #47 by Martin Künkler
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I'd tryed some of that stuff and I wasnt happy with it. Thats my experience with that. I use a big Mouthpiece (4.6mm Bore, very deep V-shape cup, 17mm inner diameter, made by Josef Klier)and it makes a very nice sound and the intonation is good in all registers. May be, that some people gets a better result if they use a Berp, heavy bottom caps, etc for their practice. I only can speak for myself if I say: Its placebo.

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25 feb 2008 17:31 #50 by Ricardo Matosinhos
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Yes.
I just asked because now in portugal a lot of people (specially students) are taking the lacquer out. Maybe by placebo induction. A really think lacquer is preferable for the horn as it will last for years, and without it will gone sooner.

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26 feb 2008 11:55 #53 by Martin Künkler
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Years ago, I had two Yamaha 667. The first one was laquered. It was only one Year old, when someone steped on it. (Put it in the Garbage!). I ordered a new one and the dealer had one in his shop, but it wasnt laquered. There was absolutly no difference between the two Horns!

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17 mei 2008 12:42 #103 by Brad Garrett
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This is what Engelbert Schmid has to say about it:
http://www.corno.de/schmid/deu-eng/bells.htm

Lacquered or unlacquered?

It is not possible to say that lacquer does not affect the sound. With a thickness on the inside and outside of 0.02 mm, this plastic-like covering accounts for approx. 10 % of the total material. Unlacquered sounds a bit more centered, which some people find brighter, some darker, some smoother and some harder. My observation and feeling is that lacquer dampens the high overtones, and also the extraneous noise in the sound, causes the horn to sound clearer, for some brighter, although it is acoustically darker. My experience is that the difference is minimal and that 50 % of hornplayers sound better on a lacquered instrument. The lacquer is more resistant to sweat than the metal and the horn will last longer if it is carefully polished when it is relacquered. It also prevents your hands from turning green. A shiny horn also makes a better impression on the audience. In my eyes the advantages of a lacquered horn clearly outweigh the disadvantages. The combination screw bell/lacquered sounds good, perhaps even better. It is definitely not important for a hornplayer´s tone. The deciding factor is the players concept of sound.

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11 juli 2008 18:55 #133 by Olivia Queathem
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I have a nickel silver Conn 8D with no lacquer. It plays beautifully, and the teacher I take private lessons from said it's not worth paying the extra money if you buy an unlacquered horn... unless you REALLY want a shiny horn. I've never had green hands from playing on it, but then, I am a middle school student and therefore don't play as much as professional hornists. It could also be because I have a leather handguard.

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29 aug 2008 14:47 #160 by Martin Künkler
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At my four-year old horn (laquered with Müller-Lack) all the laquer will go off! The modern, water-based laquers are not as good as the old ones. Ok, my handsweat is a little bit aggresiv. Now I had unlaquered it by a local repairshop. The result is: No differnce to the laquered instrument. Now I am thinking about a silverplating. Is there anyone here, who has an experience with silverplateted horns, because silverplating is rare at horns. Most silvershining horns are made of nickelsilver, I think. But thats a complete other material, than a goldbrass-horn with a silver coating. :unsure:

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